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Lost pub · Irishgate Brow

The Rose and Crown

Gone about 1861

Gone
Recorded until 1861; not in the directory of 1873
There now
Gone; the foot of Irishgate Brow has been rebuilt
Address
Foot of Irishgate Brow, by Caldew Bridge
Where exactly
At the foot of Irishgate Brow, by Caldew Bridge, from the directory of 1858 and the sale of 1857. The old Brow has gone; the pin marks roughly where the house was, not the building. The position is approximate.

A small public house at the foot of Irishgate Brow, the steep road down from the castle to the Caldew, by Caldew Bridge, which is the address the directory gave it. It belongs to the 1850s: it is not in the directory of 1847, the Post Office directory of 1858 lists 'Rose & Crown, Caldew bridge, Miss M. J. Armstrong', and it is recorded until 1861. The two addresses are one house, as they are for the Black Lion nearby, which the papers also put both on Irishgate Brow and at Caldew Bridge.

Mary Jane Armstrong was keeping it in July 1857, when the freehold came up for auction on the premises on the evening of 20 August: 'all that well-accustomed Freehold PUBLIC HOUSE, known by the sign of "The Rose and Crown," situate on the Irishgate Brow', with three cottages, a stable, a yard and conveniences behind it, the whole 'Sewered, and in an excellent state of repair', to be 'Sold to pay a good per centage'.

The cottages behind were occupied by J. T. Hills and others. John Thompson Hills owned the Union Inn, the old Oddfellows' Arms, on the same Brow, and spent years trying to let it, so the two houses stood close together.

Who bought it is not known, and no report names it after 1861. The Ordnance Survey, surveying in 1865, marked several inns at the foot of the Brow without naming any of them. The Carlisle Encyclopaedia places a Rose and Crown at Caldew Bridge, and another account places one on Irishgate Brow: this house, under both its addresses. It is not the Rose and Crown in Lowthian's Lane, off English Street, the city's much older house of the name, which traded until 1911.

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Who bought the Rose and Crown on Irishgate Brow at its auction in August 1857, and when did it close? Mary Jane Armstrong kept it in 1858 and it is recorded until 1861, but no report names it after that.

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